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Old 06-09-2011, 01:51 AM
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Unhappy Nissan 2011 navigation system

I bought a Rogue 2011 SV w/premium pkg recently...overall I like the car, though I cant tell u how much I hate the stock GPS unit... it is so archaic!! It doesnt have features that are present even in a 70$ Garmin unit, like lane-assist. The interface itself is so 2000ish!!

I am seriously thinking abt buying a good Garmin w/life-time map+traffic update (~150$). Is there a way to replace the stock unit with a Garmin?
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Old 06-14-2011, 12:27 AM
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I have to say that the GPS unit built into the Bose head unit really is pathetic, and I did look into replacing the entire system. What I found out was it won't be cheap, and would best be done by a professional.

The head unit is a standard double-DIN, which means any off-the-shelf system should fit. The problem is wiring the replacent unit to the existing back up camera and steering wheel controls. I think most shops are charging around $150 for this type of install.

Personal brand preferences aside, the trick is picking the right unit! One unit I found appealing is the Alpine INA-W900 (Navigation system with DVD player, LCD monitor, digital player and radio). It's HD radio (XM) ready, which involves adding a module, and that will add to the overall cost.
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Old 06-16-2011, 12:02 PM
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I think its GPS and database is pretty weak, too. This weekend I went to the Pocono 500 NASCAR race, so I punched in Long Pond Rd in Long Pond, PA, and it brought me to Long Pond Rd in Honesdale PA, 60 miles from the speedway! Then coming home, I was on I-84W and it directed me off I-84W onto Rt3 300 near Newburgh NY and then right back onto I-84W at the same junction...and there was no construction nor has that interchange been modified in ages. ????

Also what is the idea with "My Places"? Does that have anything to do with the little SD memory card slot on the bottom right-hand side of the front panel? I never saw anything about it in my manual.

And another thing...the Sirius/XM text display cuts off some of the characters on the titles of songs, names of albums, radio info, etc. But it looks like there's plenty of space on the screen for the complete text. My previous car (2007 Dodge Nitro with MyGig system built by Harman-Becker) showed a lot more info on the screen.

Does anyone know who developed the software for the nav/radio, and whether there are software updates issued or available, by request or download? Owners of Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth/Jeep vehicles with MyGig stereos used to get fairly regular DVDs in the mail to update/upgrade the software and I give them credit for fixing a lot of bugs.
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Old 06-17-2011, 09:12 AM
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I was baffled as well as to why such limited character display. Seems like poor programming. The SD card slot is for map upgrades only. Upgrades are not available for our model, but if they were, they would cost $149.

I saw a posting on another Nissan forum that excuses this by saying it (meaning, I think the Rogue) is an entry level model. It's sad that Nissan would charge 25~30K for this vehicle and think this is acceptable.
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Old 06-17-2011, 10:47 AM
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I was baffled as well as to why such limited character display. Seems like poor programming.
I agree; I am a programmer myself, and it's clear that the software is able to write to the entire screen (eg, when displaying a map), so I have no idea why they would have limited the length of the character string that's displayed to only about half the screen.

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The SD card slot is for map upgrades only. Upgrades are not available for our model, but if they were, they would cost $149.
Do you mean upgrades are not available YET or EVER? I hope it's not the latter! And I've never been all that thrilled with the idea that you only get the original map database "free," but all future updates cost fairly big bucks. I should think they could at least give you 2 or 3 years worth at no extra charge, or maybe $10 or $20 for shipping the media. Seems to be the least you could expect when you purchase something that costs $25-30,000!

Navteq sends out annual DVDs to update the map data in the MyGig system in Chrysler/Dodge/Playmouth/Jeep vehicles and it costs $299 to buy the installation key!

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I saw a posting on another Nissan forum that excuses this by saying it (meaning, I think the Rogue) is an entry level model. It's sad that Nissan would charge 25~30K for this vehicle and think this is acceptable.
I think I saw that too, and it doesn't make sense...pretty much any modern integrated stereo/nav/Bluetooth system should be quite flexible because so much is defined by its software, and "holding back" any features certainly isn't saving costs, nor is it going to necessarily push buyers into more expensive vehicles since you could always replace the system with a far more advanced aftermarket product.

Reminds me of when automakers used to routinely install rather poor factory sound systems in new cars and everyone said, "Always buy a car without a radio or with the cheapest radio they have, then after you buy it you can rip it out and install a good one."

I'm not fed up or anything yet, but I am at least considering swapping the factory system for something better...it might cost a couple thousand dollars, but since I almost "live" in my car (I drive an average of 25-30,000 miles a year), so it could be worth the trouble and investment...
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Old 06-17-2011, 11:28 AM
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I saw a posting on another Nissan forum that excuses this by saying it (meaning, I think the Rogue) is an entry level model. It's sad that Nissan would charge 25~30K for this vehicle and think this is acceptable.
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I think I saw that too, and it doesn't make sense...pretty much any modern integrated stereo/nav/Bluetooth system should be quite flexible because so much is defined by its software, and "holding back" any features certainly isn't saving costs, nor is it going to necessarily push buyers into more expensive vehicles since you could always replace the system with a far more advanced aftermarket product.
I am the one who said that, and IMO it's a fair assessment. It's like getting NAV in a Sentra. You pay for what you get. Could it be better, sure. I would like to say lets go sit in a Murano and test it out and see how it works.
It will always cost more to add more features, even in software. Thats how companies make their money. Oh you want visual VM with your smartphone, thats an extra 2.99 a month. Sure it's just software, but thats where they make their money.
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:15 PM
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I just picked up the Rogue SL AWD and am impressed with the improvements or the 2009 I traded in but not with the navteq. My 5 year old nuvi 360 had more feature than the navteq.

Does anyone know what's up with the traffic feature, I am located in Ontario Canada and it worked for a few days and now all I get is no traffic available, is there away to adjust or reset it without having to reset the whole system?

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