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Old 12-02-2008, 11:48 AM
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The sensors are in the rims, and are wireless (radiofrequency, I think).

So the car is programmed to look for information on these sensors to give it pressure readings, and when the car did not find them, it lights up a warning on the dashboard.

In spring when you will put the rims, therefore the sensors, back on the car, it will take a short ride above about 35 kph for the cars to recognize the sensors, take the readings, and therefore remove the light on the dashboard if the pressures are good enough.
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Old 12-03-2008, 05:48 AM
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pescakl1 thanks again for the information. It's too bad it doesn't tell you which tire would need more air in it...
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:17 AM
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Either I was really slow, or I missed the reply sorry!

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Guys, I got a question.
I recently put my winter tires they do not have a TPMS unit on it....a light is lit on my dash NO biggie, My question is when i put back my mags in the spring i did not notice a connection or a sensor that will shut off the light..
how does it work the TPMS are their cables? are their sensors on the brakes?
please help ...
The TPMS system is wireless. It contains transmitters in the valve stem that send the signal to the monitoring system. There is nothing that needs to be reconnected. I've read that you may need to have them reprogrammed once you put them back on.

Can someone else confirm if they have needed to get them reprogrammed?

If programming is not needed, once you put your mags back on and drive a bit the system should re detect the sensors and the light will disappear.

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Old 12-03-2008, 11:00 AM
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thats metal you have to love technology...lol
i hope the light doesn't burn out now lol
guys your awesome thanks for the response.
and ya it would be good to know if we need to have it reprogrammed.
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Old 12-06-2008, 01:26 PM
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TPMS sucks! if the sevice tech is right....?

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The TPMS system is wireless. It contains transmitters in the valve stem that send the signal to the monitoring system. There is nothing that needs to be reconnected. I've read that you may need to have them reprogrammed once you put them back on.

Can someone else confirm if they have needed to get them reprogrammed?

If programming is not needed, once you put your mags back on and drive a bit the system should re detect the sensors and the light will disappear.

It dropped to near zero this week and consequently
the TPMS light came on. I checked the tires and the
lowest reading was 32#s....the specs call for 33#s. I
filled the tires to 35#s, then drove the car for 10mi
at 60 mph.....light stayed on.

Here comes the bs from the tech now, I must've had
stupid sh#t written on my forehead:

So, I drove it to Nissan, the tech said that they need
to be filled to 38#s for the sensors to work correctly
in the high altitude of Colorado....."because the
sensors are hard calibrated to sea level and can't be
changed...."
To that I said....33psi at sea level has the same
pressure as 33psi in Colorado, the sensors look for
33psi. If not, then, #1... our TPMS systems are
defective because they will only work properly if
driven only at sea level. #2...to keep the light from
coming on, you are forced to over-inflate the tires...
(38psi in real cold weather would be like 45psi in hot
weather, thats flat dangerous!)

Then I asked if all cars with the TPMS has this
problem and the tech said that only Nissan has this
type of TPMS sensor....tech's full of crap!
I asked why the Rogue manual doesn't say the same
thing...no answer
All this is STUPID, and I'm not that damn gullible!

IF MY LIGHT COMES ON AGAIN.....here is what I am gonna do. Since the
warning light will not reset as per our manual instructions.....I will copy
the dealership trick and over-inflate each tire by approx 6psi, (38-39psi
each), then drive the car above 25mph which should reset the warning
light. Then, once the light is reset, and contrary to the dealership where
they would just leave the tires dangerously over-inflated, I will carefully
back the psi back down in each tire to around 35psi and leave them at
that......I believe that will solve the problem til the next time......whenever
that might be???? ....stupid TPMS system!

After scratches on the doors, rattles, defective
sensors, tranny problems of others, and ignorant
service reps, I seriously doubt that more Nissans
are in my future.
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Mistergib, don't worry too much about overinflating the tires: I drive my Rogue with pressure at 40-42psi, even in summer and on highway. In hot weather and after a highway drive, they may be around 42-43 psi, no more (and 45 psi is the rated max pressure, you have still a x1.5 margin of safety before bursting).

For the rest of your post, I am 1000% agree with you: TPMS sucks (The system on my RAV4 was way better as it was mounted on the springs) and don't ask too much from the tech, I had a nice experience with a Honda one last friday, and the best thing is that I will have to deal with this guy next friday again.
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Mistergib, don't worry too much about overinflating the tires: I drive my Rogue with pressure at 40-42psi, even in summer and on highway. In hot weather and after a highway drive, they may be around 42-43 psi, no more (and 45 psi is the rated max pressure, you have still a x1.5 margin of safety before bursting).

For the rest of your post, I am 1000% agree with you: TPMS sucks (The system on my RAV4 was way better as it was mounted on the springs) and don't ask too much from the tech, I had a nice experience with a Honda one last friday, and the best thing is that I will have to deal with this guy next friday again.
I agree with ya.....I do not believe that the 38-39psi
is that dangerous....my concern was if, by chance,
the weather really warmed up for a day, that the psi
would go up to the 45psi.....that, I don't like, that's
too much. That, and the fact that our TPMS is a
piece of junk!
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Mr. Gibb, I know your tech is either uninformed or lying to you, because my TPMS works perfectly, or rather, I've had no reason to complain about it. I think it is excellent, and the fact that our opinions differ so much leads me to the conclusion that your system has a defect somewhere that should be found and fixed under warranty. I live in Alberta, where we get wide range of temperatures and it changes rapidly from day to routinely, so I know the pressure in my tires reflects this, but still I've never even seen my TPMS light. I do not have to overinflate my tires to achieve this, I put in the recommended 33, I never check my tires, and its now brutal winter around -20 celcius, so i know the pressure is much less than 33 and STILL my light hasn't come on. However, I tested this on time, I put the pressure of one tire down to less than 20 psi, the light came on as it should, so I re-inflated and the light immediately went out. In summary, my TPMS works great, I'm very happy to have it, and and am absolutey thrilled with my Rogue over all, it is by far the best vehicle I've ever owned, and is far superior to the others I checked out including the OVER-RATED RAV4, and ugly under-powered CRV.

You do have my sympathy, it is dissappointing to hear how poor the service from Nisan has been for you, and the problems with your vehicle.
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If I am not mistaken, the TPMS will not illuminate until there is at least a 5psi drop in pressure. The first cold snap that we got up here in Barrie my TPMS light came on and sure enough, all my tires were between 25 and 29 psi. It is quite commone for a sudden onset of cold weather to do that. Since then I check my tires regularly and all has been fine.
Well I have to keep my Dunlop SP Sport 7000 A/S tires at 53psi, even though they're only supposed to be no higher than 51psi. The stupid sensor light comes on if they're not kept above the 51 mark. I suspect one (or more) sensor may be defective.
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So, in other words, the higher you increase the tire pressure above the recommended pressure, you decrease the contact footprint of the tire, which increases stopping distance and seriously effects lateral handling. IMHO
very well said. i dont need computers to see how obvious that is.
1. The tires start out over inflated.
2. vehicle starts moving and generating heat in the tires, causing further expansion.
3. the vehicle hits a hard bump and the tire explodes due to not having anymore room to expand.

and this is the simple diagram to show contact patch and how over/under-inflation causes a smaller contact patch = thus reducing stopping times.
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