Nissan Rogue Forum

Pescakl1 · #1 (**permalink**) 05-14-2008, 10:42 AM

I know that synthetic oil lasts longer and you can almost double your mileage before changing it.

But is it the same for the other components you change during an oil change? Is the oil filter lasts as twice as long when you use synthetic oil? Do you use a specific oil filter?

Is it interesting, other than environementaly speaking, to switch to synthetic oil?

As you can see, I am a beginner in this area.

Squid · #2 (**permalink**) 05-14-2008, 09:38 PM

I run Mobil 1 synthetic in my 04 Nissan Titan and per an oil analysis from Blackstone labs I go 13,000 miles between oil changes and that includes the filter. I've included a link and in the link is everything you could ever wonder about when it comes to oils, filters and analysis. Rogue Oil Analysis The one thing to keep in mine is that not all oils, filters, vehicles and engines are the same. Also where you live and how you drive plays a big part of how long you can go so the only way to know is to have an analysis done.

But until your warranty is up never go past the max allowed by the manufacturer of your vehicle. It's just not worth it if it something does happen to your engine.

Pescakl1 · #3 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squid

I run Mobil 1 synthetic in my 04 Nissan Titan and per an oil analysis from Blackstone labs I go 13,000 miles between oil changes and that includes the filter. I've included a link and in the link is everything you could ever wonder about when it comes to oils, filters and analysis. Rogue Oil Analysis The one thing to keep in mine is that not all oils, filters, vehicles and engines are the same. Also where you live and how you drive plays a big part of how long you can go so the only way to know is to have an analysis done.

For sure I will analyse this when I will move to the synthetic oil, and do it again everytime I change the way I use my car (for example moving from mostly highway to mostly city)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squid

But until your warranty is up never go past the max allowed by the manufacturer of your vehicle. It's just not worth it if it something does happen to your engine.

Is it the 5 years/60.000 miles warranty?
I was lucky enough to never have problem with my cars so I do not look at it that much when I buy a car.

Squid · #4 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 06:14 PM

Yeah, that's it 5 years, 60,000 miles and I now have over 119,000 miles on my Titan.

Mistergib · #5 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 06:45 PM

...ok, ya guys may throw stones at me for this....

I only did a little bit of research on this, NOT ALOT, so
you guys can set me straight if I'm wrong...

I'm under the impression that the only "100% True"
synthetic oils are Amzoil and RedLine....and, they also
cost another $3-$4 a quart compared to Mobil1 and
the others.

What say you?

Squid · #6 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 07:38 PM

I say that Mobil 1 does sell a Dino, Semi Synthetic and Full Synthetic motor oil. The Mobil1 EP that I use in my Titan is a real Synthetic made from Synthetic base stock. http://www.mobil1.ca/Canada-English/Files/Products_Lubes/IOCAENPVLMOMobil_1_EP.pdf I also think that Amsoil does carry some good products but their marketing practices leaves a lot to be desired.

Squid · #7 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 07:46 PM

From the Amsoil website.

AMSOIL is the Original Synthetic Oil and They Are Still the Finest Synthetic Oil!

AMSOIL is 'The First in Synthetics' and also the foremost in quality, protection and performance. All of the other oil companies worldwide were offered the opportunity to lodge a challenge when AMSOIL made an application for trademark rights to 'The First in Synthetics', but after a 90 day waiting period, none of them had objected!

The Patent and Trademark Officials stated that, by declaring that AMSOIL was the original in history that AMSOIL was also implying that it was the finest oil (or #1/top) from a quality or performance point of view. AMSOIL provided the government officials with evaluation records and test data supporting the assertion that AMSOIL was also the very finest.

After the government officials informed all other oil manufacturers that AMSOIL was alleging to be the finest, not one of the other oil companies or competitors protested! None of them said a word! I can promise you that if any of these rivals and major oil companies had a product superior to AMSOIL they would have complained.

Actually, Al Amatuzio, the founder, President and CEO of AMSOIL maintains that he frequently notices other companies' advertisement mottos asserting that their products are the greatest. They are not. Mobil 1 has used the phrase for their advertising 'nothing outperforms Mobil 1'. A.J. Amatuzio says that he is aware of a company that does make products that surpass Mobil 1. "And you know which company that is. Mobil makes a very good oil, but I am here to tell you that that it does not outperform AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils. They can come out with advertising buzz words to market their oils, but in the final analysis, buzz words don't add one thing to their products performance. The only reason that AMSOIL has continued to grow and prosper competing with large corporations like Mobil is that AMSOIL products have consistently performed better."

Damage deterrence is an engine oils chief and most vital function. No other motor oil guards against wear and tear better than AMSOIL synthetic oil. FACT!

As well as AMSOIL bringing you the first synthetic, they were also foremost in introducing the idea of longer gaps between drains. Can you think of another oil company that will guarantee their product for 25,000 miles? AMSOIL has been doing exactly that for more than 30 years. It doesn't matter if you are a car owner searching for premium synthetic motor oil, a company proprietor wanting to incorporate a winning product line to your stock or a fleet owner needing to slash your operating costs, we trust you will come across everything you want here. Explore our site and discover the proof! Evaluate AMSOIL's performance and properties with the alternatives. Yes, AMSOIL is more expensive, but bear in mind that you always get what you pay for. However, as you will find, by using AMSOIL synthetic oils you will, in reality, save money, and you will be providing your engine with the greatest protection you can provide for it too!

AMSOIL products undoubtedly provide superior wear protection than rival synthetics and far greater protection than ordinary conventional oils. Engines can still stop working because of mechanical trouble when using AMSOIL. However, AMSOIL Synthetic Oils, in more than twenty-nine years, have never brought about an engine failure. If you ever find that someone is declaring that AMSOIL caused their engine, bearings, pistons, etc. damage, they are mistaken.

Federal Mogul Corporation, a manufacturer of engine bearings, pistons, connecting rods and other engine components, examined more than 7,000 accounts of bearing distress and engine failure and under no circumstances discovered engine oil to be the root of a failure. Dirt, the primary source of engine failure, was established to be to blame for 43.4% of failures, and not enough lubrication, the second most common source of failure, was accountable for 16.6% of failures. Inadequate lubrication is the common expression used when insufficient oil reaches the engine to lubricate it (lack of oil volume). What causes lack of oil volume and inadequate lubrication? Sludge build up. Yes, sludge builds up and blocks vital oil ports that provide lubrication to important engine components. AMSOIL synthetic oil prevents sludge build up and keeps engines clean and operating at peak efficiency.

AMSOIL Synthetic Oil has been foremost in the business for more than 33 years and remains number one. AMSOIL does not only allege to be the finest, they support it with scientific tests. AMSOIL never stops their research and development and carries on year round to develop and enhance their synthetic oils and lubricants. They continue to be placed on top and will not be content with anything less!

Mistergib · #8 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 07:56 PM

the difference is supposed to be in the chemicals they
use thats better.....the reason for these differences is
our use of the catalytic converters on out motors.

supposedly, the "true" synthetics lubricate and outperform
the others but have a tendency to shorten the life of the
converters because of the stock they use to make it,
.....Mobil1 changed their formula a few years back to
negate those converter life shortening tendencies.

Actually, I'm pretty certain that the above is true, and it
is also the reason in the increased prices....I'll get some
info to back it up for ya's....

Go to this link: RE: All Mobil1 oils are G3 fake synthetic - Off Topic

Squid · #9 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 08:06 PM

Never ever read this before and I hang out at Bob Is The Oil Guy - Powered by Motor Oil which is about nothing but oils and filters so I'd like to see this data.

All I know is what my oil analysis says because it shows impurities and also the TBN of the oil. Add in the fact that after 119,000 miles there's nothing wrong with my cats I don't think I'm going to rush out and buy a more expensive oil. In my Diesel I use Castrol.

Squid · #10 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 08:09 PM

I almost forgot.
Mobil 1 is factory fill in:

Acura RDX
Aston Martin
All Bentley Vehicles
All Cadillac Vehicles
Chevrolet Corvette C6 and Z06
Chevrolet TrailBlazer SS
Chrysler 300C SRT-8
Cobalt SS S/C Coupe
Dodge Caliber SRT-4, Charger SRT-8, and Magnum SRT-8
Jeep Cherokee SRT-8
Mercedes-Benz AMG Vehicles
Mercedes SLR
Mitsubishi Evolution
Pontiac Solstice GXP
All Porsche Vehicles
Saturn Ion Red Line and Saturn Sky Red Line
Viper SRT-10

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode